Torture in Iraq

[6thGen]

Although you and I disagree on most things , you cannot be serious in your assertion that The Quran encourages fanatics anymore than the Bible or Torah. Come on. In the current environment it may seem like that to you but you are sharp enough to look at the big picture. Please don't make me list all the examples of Christian and Jewish fanatical interpretation of their Books.

Again, site scripture. I've sited the Koran on the other thread if you need to look it up. I agree that the majority of Muslims are peaceful, but they aren't very vocal about the rest that are highjacking thier religion and turning it into a death cult.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I disagree with you SJ about exposing these tortures, beheadings etc. to the mass public. Most intelligent adults watch the news, have access to the internet, and other mediums if they need to see it and can handle it.
We all know what goes in the world.

Hell, I watched my friends die 9/11 live on television, and I resented the media constantly showing the same scene over and over again.

If I choose to watch it, that's my decision, but I don't need anyone sticking it in my face to make a point, either on television or on a message board.

It wasn't like 6th Gen hid the title of the link. His thread title is Torture in Iraq. I don't think the first post in here will be Scooby Doo. I saw the thread title and chose to open the link. I am not suggesting that anyone be forced to see it, or tricked into seeing the beheading videos. As I said, the beheading videos will shake you up and change the way you think about life, forever! I don't think most people can handle watching them, just as I don't think most people could watch the slaughter of a cow which they are eating in the form of a steak. Yes, they did show over and over again the coverage of the WTC on tv, but they haven't aired the beheading video clips on tv, and they won't.

 

[rancid]

Again, site scripture. I've sited the Koran on the other thread if you need to look it up. I agree that the majority of Muslims are peaceful, but they aren't very vocal about the rest that are highjacking thier religion and turning it into a death cult.

As I posted for you before. I believe this is the Scripture you desire.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

As far as the Geneva Convention, see Alberto Gonzales' statement on the "quaintness" of it

 

[Mango]

It wasn't like 6th Gen hid the title of the link. His thread title is Torture in Iraq. I don't think the first post in here will be Scooby Doo. I saw the thread title and chose to open the link. I am not suggesting that anyone be forced to see it, or tricked into seeing the beheading videos. As I said, the beheading videos will shake you up and change the way you think about life, forever! I don't think most people can handle watching them, just as I don't think most people could watch the slaughter of a cow which they are eating in the form of a steak. Yes, they did show over and over again the coverage of the WTC on tv, but they haven't aired the beheading video clips on tv, and they won't.

No, 6th Gen didn't hide the title of the link, but it does come up on the main bulletin board everytime someone logs on.
Sowal is located in an area close to many military bases and I am sure there are many people who may visit this board with family serving in the military who are quite aware of what is going on in Iraq, but don't need a constant reminder of it.

6th gen says we don't have the stomach for war. Let him tell that to our servicemen in the military and their families while he sits on his self absorbed high horse in his office starting threads while showing disrepect for others opinions who post on them.

BTW- Scooby Doo rocks! ;-)

 

[6thGen]

As I posted for you before. I believe this is the Scripture you desire.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

As far as the Geneva Convention, see Alberto Gonzales' statement on the "quaintness" of it

From your source - You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

KJV: If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

NASB: If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the dowry for virgins.


And yes, there are some inflamatory quotes in your source, evilbible.com, most of them had to do with war and most of them were taken out of context. Yes, I know where you are going with that next. However, you still have not given an example of where such behavior is condoned within the past 500 years. I'll give you one - Salem. Give me one within the past 300.

 

[6thGen]

No, 6th Gen didn't hide the title of the link, but it does come up on the main bulletin board everytime someone logs on.
Sowal is located in an area close to many military bases and I am sure there are many people who may visit this board with family serving in the military who are quite aware of what is going on in Iraq, but don't need a constant reminder of it.

6th gen says we don't have the stomach for war. Let him tell that to our servicemen in the military and their families while he sits on his self absorbed high horse in his office starting threads while showing disrepect for others opinions who post on them.

BTW- Scooby Doo rocks! ;-)

I never said the military doesn't have the stomach for war - of course they do. It's an all volunteer force. The American public does not and that was well beyond obvious.

 

[Bob]

I never said the military doesn't have the stomach for war - of course they do. It's an all volunteer force. The American public does not and that was well beyond obvious.

6thGen, I want you to come up with a short list of all the "animal" countries of the world. Be sure to put China and Russia on that list. Take that list down to your local recruiting center, and tell them that they're going to need more people to invade and occupy the world.

 

[Cheering472]

6thGen, I want you to come up with a short list of all the "animal" countries of the world. Be sure to put China and Russia on that list. Take that list down to your local recruiting center, and tell them that they're going to need more people to invade and occupy the world.[/QUOTE]

...Or you can actually volunteer to fight, or offer your family to fight. I think the people that support the war in Iraq should actually support it. So far we have yet to be taxed extra to help pay for it. Yet every war usually is paid in increased taxes not borrowed money. So we have done nothing but talk and sacrifice our youth in our effort on the home front. I wonder how many who say we have no stomach for war, have the stomach to pay higher taxes to fund it or don't mind losing their child in the sand.

 

[Rita]

6thGen, I want you to come up with a short list of all the "animal" countries of the world. Be sure to put China and Russia on that list. Take that list down to your local recruiting center, and tell them that they're going to need more people to invade and occupy the world.

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[rancid]

From your source - You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

KJV: If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

NASB: If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the dowry for virgins.


And yes, there are some inflamatory quotes in your source, evilbible.com, most of them had to do with war and most of them were taken out of context. Yes, I know where you are going with that next. However, you still have not given an example of where such behavior is condoned within the past 500 years. I'll give you one - Salem. Give me one within the past 300.

Hitler' Germany. A quote from Adolf--

Hitler was born and raised Catholic. "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so," Hitler himself told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals, in 1941. In Mein Kampf he says, "Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work." And at a Nazi Christmas celebration in 1926 Hitler declared: "Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy, the Jews . . . The work that Christ started but could not finish, I--Adolf Hitler--will conclude."

Serbian/Bosnian killing fits under religiously divided parties.

I think you are wrong in thinking that Islam has been used anymore than Christianity by people to justify their actions. Both books and really any religious text can be twisted to mean almost anything.
Religion by nature is based on faith in something that can never be proved. When ones end point in any argument or conflict is the belief that your God justifies your action , then there is no way to reason any further. thus the inevitable rise of a fanatical segment in all religions from time to time. This is what you are seeing currently in Islam. This , however, does not make this religion any more inherently violent than others.