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[Lou Deman]

Do you have a problem with others telling you to wear a seat belt?

Here we go, I never wear a seatbelt either
I believe when my time is up it is up
But I should wear a seatbelt because it is a law

 

[Lou Deman]

It’s useless so just let it go and do society a favor by letting nature’s survival of the fittest play out.
Just make sure you and those you care about are up to date on inoculations.
Sadly we will see children suffer from right wing stupidity, but we already see that in gun deaths.

Exactly but this might not go the way you think
By getting the vaccine your body is not building the natural immunity you need
You are literally making yourself weaker (unless you keep getting new vaccines till god knows when)

Way to try to work another talking point in on the gun issue

 

[Lou Deman]

It is not that it comes down to whether a mask works or does not work. What it does is minimizes the transmission of droplets containing viruses and when you practice better hygiene and get the vaccine the risk of transmission is lower. So you go to a family reunion or in a grocery store without doing anything your risk of infecting someone is higher. How does this not compute? What is wrong with you?

You'll never understand me
I'm a mulch guy

 

[Katie_lied]

Katie
I'm sorry for the way I word things sometimes
When I say men I do not always mean male, I mean people who handle their business

If all of my people were males I would be voting democrat (that was a joke)

I am not against vaccines, I was not even against this vaccine, Personally I did not take the vaccine because I did not feel the risk was worth the reward.
If I felt at risk I would have taken it but I did not want my kids (whom have not bred yet (thank god)) to take it because I do not have faith that the long term or down stream affects have been seen or weighted out. To me this vaccine was hurried through the process because it needed to be. Once I started seeing who was affected (the old, young, and at risk people) I did not see the point in getting vaccinated. I do not have a problem with people getting vaccinated nor did I have a problem with wearing a mask when I went into someones place of business that wanted them worn. I do have a problem with others telling me to wear a mask.

Thank you for the civilized answer. Of course I knew what you meant, otherwise you‘d be a freak of nature. However, it’s interesting that you use ”men“ so much in conversation. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Lou Deman]

Thank you for the civilized answer. Of course knew what you meant, otherwise you‘d be a freak of nature. However, it’s interesting that you use ”men“ so much in conversation. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Katie
I will always be civil when approached civil
Thanks

 

[Lake View Too]

LVT
I don't like your politics but I think you are intelligent
There is no way on God green earth that this picture above was shown without more context
The most important context being the filtration size of the masks
You know better then most that the mask you where to keep out sawdust and the mask you where to keep out sheetrock dust or paint are different

The top doctors said covid was an airborne disease
They didn't say it was transmitted through the spittle
If it were that would make the masks extremely important but that is not what was sold to us
That being said I didn't go to medical school

LVT
I don't like your politics but I think you are intelligent
There is no way on God green earth that this picture above was shown without more context
The most important context being the filtration size of the masks
You know better then most that the mask you where to keep out sawdust and the mask you where to keep out sheetrock dust or paint are different

The top doctors said covid was an airborne disease
They didn't say it was transmitted through the spittle
If it were that would make the masks extremely important but that is not what was sold to us
That being said I didn't go to medical school

I’m pretty sure you are misinformed about the point of it being transmitted by expired droplets. And I think you seem to overlook that the point of the masks is to lower the chances of a carrier spreading the disease. You know better than most that I don’t wear a mask in the shop to keep from spreading disease to the table saw. The point is empathy and trying to work together as a country to stop the spread.
You stated that the attempt to stop the spread of Covid should never be politicized, but Trump did exactly that. He said on tape that he purposely downplayed the disease. It’s pretty naive to think that did not contribute to the needless deaths of thousands of Americans. You attempt to mock some of the people on this thread for being passionately anti-Trump and anti-GOP, but you seem to be able to overlook that Trump and his sycophants are truly despicable excuses for human beings. I guess you think that’s the manly thing to do.

 

[mputnal]

Here we go, I never wear a seatbelt either
I believe when my time is up it is up
But I should wear a seatbelt because it is a law

My point is that your purpose seems to be driven by political division. Not science. Not truth. Not evidence. Not human compassion. I think you take your freedoms even when it hurts others. I just don't understand why!

 

[Leader of the Banned]

Here we go, I never wear a seatbelt either
I believe when my time is up it is up
But I should wear a seatbelt because it is a law

And you don't believe that taking certain precautions makes it more likely that your "time" will be extended? Is that what you are saying? Does that not matter to you?

 

[Matt J]

For all the bravado espoused here I'll bet someone wouldn't walk into a Sacred Heart break room full of nurses and start shouting this nonsense.

The lock down had nothing to do with protecting the infirm, elderly and immune compromised. It had everything to do with slowing the spread (masks slow too) to prevent overwhelming our medical facilities and workers. The vaccine was another way to slow the spread.

Y'all are arguing will pure willful ignorance and this is how he gets his jollies.

 

[mputnal]

LVT
I don't like your politics but I think you are intelligent
There is no way on God green earth that this picture above was shown without more context
The most important context being the filtration size of the masks
You know better then most that the mask you where to keep out sawdust and the mask you where to keep out sheetrock dust or paint are different

The top doctors said covid was an airborne disease
They didn't say it was transmitted through the spittle
If it were that would make the masks extremely important but that is not what was sold to us
That being said I didn't go to medical school

The context is saving human lives. You offered nothing to society. Society offered you masks, vaccines, information and many of us gave effort and took a very small risk and got the vaccine. You take. Society gives. You disparage society.