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Fox News isn't a news organization..

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Great call out. Very true--goes right to the core of Fox Noise's problem. I think they may have to start a bit of introspection on what and how they are reporting things. They are a little TOO invloved in all aspects of the teabagger's movement, the death panel folks, the racist fringe, country music scene, the he-wasn't-born-here lunatics, the bring-guns -to-rally-numbnuts, well you get the picture--Fox owns, supports, and placates these groups wholeheatedly.

No wonder only 1 in 5 describes themselves NOW as Republican!
 
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what a foolish debate. of course they are a real news org. this is part of a large smear campaign and many are taking the bait. and than you have people who hate fox because they're told too by the bomb throwers themselves using slogans like "fox noise" and "faux news"-childish. and those people dont even or never have watched fox. the top 13 news programs are fnc. thats not by accident so ill stick with the majority. there will no doubt be a time where this is laughed upon :idontno:
 
what a foolish debate. of course they are a real news org. this is part of a large smear campaign and many are taking the bait. and than you have people who hate fox because they're told too by the bomb throwers themselves using slogans like "fox noise" and "faux news"-childish. and those people dont even or never have watched fox. the top 13 news programs are fnc. thats not by accident so ill stick with the majority. there will no doubt be a time where this is laughed upon :idontno:

I agree with the childish part above. It's kinda like MSLSD, etc. Isn't it? Seems like the lowest common denominator is coming out on all sides of the "debate."
 
I agree with the childish part above. It's kinda like MSLSD, etc. Isn't it? Seems like the lowest common denominator is coming out on all sides of the "debate."


we're not talking about me, but way to go on changing the subject. that usually happens when one is not able to debate on substance. this whole thread is amusing. while the rest of the nation sees this for what it is, the left will continue playing their political games. ill sit back, laugh it off and continue living a good, clear thinking life in paradise.
 
we're not talking about me, but way to go on changing the subject. that usually happens when one is not able to debate on substance. this whole thread is amusing. while the rest of the nation sees this for what it is, the left will continue playing their political games. ill sit back, laugh it off and continue living a good, clear thinking life in paradise.

You're right it's not about any of us. I was only AGREEING with you that it is childish to use cheap slogans to describe Fox network. I just happen to think that it is childish to use those tactics to describe any network. It reduces the "debate" to the lowest common denominator of "my news source is better than your news source" instead of discussing the salient points of ANY news story.

I happen to agree that Fox News is no better or worse than any other news organization out there. As a matter of fact, I am on the 30AShopper side of this issue and use Fox news to balance out other news outlets. Actually, I watch very little broadcast or cable news anymore because it is about 10% news and more editorial but there are some good shows on different channels.
 
I call BS on the whole Fox is not news...

I'll give you Hannity, Beck and even O'Reilly....They are OPINION shows in the same light as Olberman, Maddow, Mathews,

The rest is news.....Like them or not...the ratings don't lie
 
I call BS on the whole Fox is not news...

I'll give you Hannity, Beck and even O'Reilly....They are OPINION shows in the same light as Olberman, Maddow, Mathews,

The rest is news.....Like them or not...the ratings don't lie

Oh sure they do. You are trying to say that Roger Ailes is not a master political manipulator? It's about appeal, not the content.

Make no mistake, overall they're not much worse than anyone, and I do catch Shep from time to time, but sadly, the days of straightforward, fair and trusted news and analysis died long before Cronkite actually did.

But again, this is not a battle Obama needs to be fighting, it is laughable, in fact.
 
Oh sure they do. You are trying to say that Roger Ailes is not a master political manipulator? It's about appeal, not the content.

Make no mistake, overall they're not much worse than anyone, and I do catch Shep from time to time, but sadly, the days of straightforward, fair and trusted news and analysis died long before Cronkite actually did.

But again, this is not a battle Obama needs to be fighting, it is laughable, in fact.


ailes is a master political manipulator? you got proof of that other than that olby says so after being fired from ailes for being a loon?

and by the way, shep is a liberal. he just hasnt drank the koolaid. and so is greta, etc.

the facts are available for everything these days. if you dont think fox supplies that, who does? everything fox tells you you can look up on the internet these days and i dont mean on a blog.

you are right though, its a fight the president should not be fighting. he's taken these tactics from his far left pals for decades. only in the modern day these tactics will blow up in this face without a doubt. especially when fox dominates the airwaves.... even my democratic family sees this for what it is and they havent a clue what this president has been or not been doing.
 
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