Seriously? the American Flag?

[Mermaid]

Mermy, this sounds like it applies to people who actually own property- like condos, townhomes, in 'hoods with HOAs.

A good news story would have researched the legality of it all to find out if the apartment owner or renters had the rights.

Thank you jdarg for approaching this in a logical manner rather than getting all huffed up with an opinion that might or might not have had anything to do the legality of the situation! It gets a little tiresome to have every topic viewed as only an opportunity to hurl insults at the other side. Facts have evidently becomes footnotes to the story rather than cornerstones. Too boring I suppose...:roll:

I think the flag act by including the term "residential real estate management association" means landlords, so this does not apply to only actual owners of real estate. And from what I understand, the last bit about reasonable restriction is where the wiggle room that is open for courtroom debate comes in. I could imagine a ban on flying those enormous flags (like the kind they wave at car dealerships) in a residential setting would not be a new story, for example.

 

[Jdarg]

Thank you jdarg for approaching this in a logical manner rather than getting all huffed up with an opinion that might or might not have had anything to do the legality of the situation! It gets a little tiresome to have every topic viewed as only an opportunity to hurl insults at the other side. Facts have evidently becomes footnotes to the story rather than cornerstones. Too boring I suppose...:roll:

I just found this one interesting, I don't know why. By tomorrow, it won't matter if the property owner or the tenant is right - because there will be so many people whipped into a frenzy by news stories only reporting one side. If the tenants are right, then report the law backing it up. Even if the property owner is in the legal right, he will most likely want to move!

 

[Mermaid]

I just found this one interesting, I don't know why. By tomorrow, it won't matter if the property owner or the tenant is right - because there will be so many people whipped into a frenzy by news stories only reporting one side. If the tenants are right, then report the law backing it up. Even if the property owner is in the legal right, he will most likely want to move!

I think it's interesting, too. It makes me think back to 9/11/01. Within days every bumper sported an American flag decal and sales of our flag went through the roof. Everyone wanted to display a flag. And now??

 

[AlphaCrab]

I think it's interesting, too. It makes me think back to 9/11/01. Within days every bumper sported an American flag decal and sales of our flag went through the roof. Everyone wanted to display a flag. And now??[/quote]

...And now...The story is dead, this thread is dead, and I am going to bed.

 

[AlphaCrab]

edit: Personal attacks are not allowed on SoWal.com

In my online community in Pa. (my former residence) personal attacks like that were deemed not acceptible and inappropriate--I guess that is just not the case here.

 

[Mermaid]

I think it's interesting, too. It makes me think back to 9/11/01. Within days every bumper sported an American flag decal and sales of our flag went through the roof. Everyone wanted to display a flag. And now??[/quote]

...And now...The story is dead, this thread is dead, and I am going to bed.

Oh, please don't let us stop you.

 

[Jdarg]

This is very complicated- which is probably why the news story was pretty short and sweet- way above most TV news quickies. This stuff would put most people to sleep.

From the following article, I am still reading that apartment complex owners are not the same as residential real estate management associations. And also, there are apparently several individual state rules that trump the fed rules. (I think it said to not assume that the federal law preempts the state law).


Guidance for Complying with the Freedom to Display the American Flag Act of 2005

Mermy I don't know how you did so much HOA research-- your eyes must have glazed over.

 

[Santiago]

In my online community in Pa. (my former residence) personal attacks like that were deemed not acceptible and inappropriate--I guess that is just not the case here.

edit: Personal attacks are not allowed on SoWal.com

 

[Mermaid]

This is very complicated- which is probably why the news story was pretty short and sweet- way above most TV news quickies. This stuff would put most people to sleep.

From the following article, I am still reading that apartment complex owners are not the same as residential real estate management associations. And also, there are apparently several individual state rules that trump the fed rules. (I think it said to not assume that the federal law preempts the state law).


Guidance for Complying with the Freedom to Display the American Flag Act of 2005

Mermy I don't know how you did so much HOA research-- your eyes must have glazed over.

It was actually condominium law I was studying, not HOAs--in Florida there are slight but important nuances between the two. I am glad to say, however, that Florida legislature passed the following last fall, for condominiums:

FS 718.113(4) Any unit owner may display one portable, removable United States flag in a respectful way and, on Armed Forces Day, Memorial Day, Flag Day, Independence Day, and Veterans Day, may display in a respectful way, portable, removable official flags, not larger than 4 1/2' by 6', that represent the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard, regardless of any declaration rules or requirements dealing with flags or decorations.

BTW, my statutes booklet also states that the Florida legislature says it is now perfectly legal for condo owners in this state to have wash lines to dry their clothes. Somehow I think a person exercising his rights in a million dollar plus condo development would draw far more ire doing that than displaying an American flag.

 

[poppy]

If while renting a condo on the beach one were told to remove their American flag towel draped over the railing or be evicted, would Fox News get up in arms over this when in fact all towels on railings are banned? Of course they would because it feeds to the "America is being destroyed" crowd they pander to.