Torture in Iraq

[Allifunn]

I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've noted all of the name calling. I made a statement insinuating that 30Gay's father probably cringes at the thought of him bringing home a date, and someone said that I should be banned. So I was making the point that if calling me a racist and a Nazi is fair game, so is that.

Insuinations will get you in trouble, every time. Your point was not well taken. You obviously have little sense of tolerance or compassion. It occurs to me that any points you have attempted to make have been overshadowed by you rigidity and insidiousness.

 

[6thGen]

Insuinations will get you in trouble, every time. Your point was not well taken. You obviously have little sense of tolerance or compassion. It occurs to me that any points you have attempted to make have been overshadowed by you rigidity and insidiousness.

So, is this (minus the clapping and bowing smiley faces)

"all I have to say is 30gAy..........................you do rock!!! "

still your position when someone lines another up with Klansmen? Esp. after the latter just made a comment that such behavior is deplorable?

 

[6thGen]

I am, as politely as I can, going to refrain from trying to educate you on the politics of the middle east (there is plenty of available literature that will do it far better than I can) or in the benefits and exposure one gets in travel and IMMERSION in other cultures and religions (and apologies in advance if I offend you but I continue to remain utterly unconvinced by your claims of travel because like I have said one rarely meets people with views as starkly primitive as yours) - I may be wrong, but I seriously doubt it).

You wrote a lot of stuff in that post, but I'll quickly ask what your thoughts are on Palestine's position on Israel?

Palestinian Government Spokesman Dr. Ghazi Hamad on Israel - "this is not a country of humans. These are animals and a group of gangs, and this country must be wiped off the face of the earth."

Here's what you said "So many people are so quick to label others they do not understand as "animals" - it is despicable."

Do Palestine and Israel just need more understanding? Give peace a chance?

 

[scooterbug44]

30gAy does rock! He made a humorous picture referencing an iconic advertising campaign. The topics under debate at the time were nuclear bombs (mushroom cloud), intolerence and xenophobia (Klan), and Iraq/torture (Abu Grab) so he included photos that represented them.

Your rebuttals consisted of whining and an inappropriate personal attack.

Given a choice between the 2 of you, I know who's invited and who I'd be ashamed of at the next cocktail party!

 

[6thGen]

30gAy does rock! He made a humorous picture referencing an iconic advertising campaign. The topics under debate at the time were nuclear bombs (mushroom cloud), intolerence and xenophobia (Klan), and Iraq/torture (Abu Grab) so he included photos that represented them.

Your rebuttals consisted of whining and an inappropriate personal attack.

Given a choice between the 2 of you, I know who's invited and who I'd be ashamed of at the next cocktail party!

So, to sum up, Nazi, racist, torturer (in a thread where I was condemning racism and torture) - appropriate

Parent's feelings on their children's in your face sexuality - inappropriate

Thanks for clearing that up. Oh, he also called me a drunk one time because I said I had two meetings before and after dinner for cocktails. I think drunks are on the list of people you aren't allowed to offend because it's not their fault. But that's appropriate. Thanks for keeping me straight (no pun intended).

 

[Allifunn]

some people just don't "get it"
Sure is funn getting them riled up though....:rofl:

 

[Jdarg]

I am officially starting a support group of middle-aged women who love 30 gAy. Posting smilies and laffies and huggies and all that warm fuzzy stuff can be the trademark of our support for each other in these trying times.

C'mon girls!

 

[30gAy]

You wrote a lot of stuff in that post, but I'll quickly ask what your thoughts are on Palestine's position on Israel?

Palestinian Government Spokesman Dr. Ghazi Hamad on Israel - "this is not a country of humans. These are animals and a group of gangs, and this country must be wiped off the face of the earth."

Here's what you said "So many people are so quick to label others they do not understand as "animals" - it is despicable."

Do Palestine and Israel just need more understanding? Give peace a chance?

Oh, I do so enjoy making you look idiotic.

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
-- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

And your point with this post is what?

Oh yes, of course- the obligatory inflammatory comment meant to distract attention away from your inability to back up your previous arguments with logical lines of reasoning:

-Middle East culture is the most violent in history
-The ?animals? (your term) in Iraq represent the whole society and therefore do not warrant any understanding of that society
-Saddam was going to attack the US
-The surge is working
-Al Quaida was in Iraq prior to the invasion.
-Americans need to be sick to their stomach at the ?animals? and not ask any questions.
-If the US doesn?t continue in Iraq, we are weak.
-Not a single culture founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs would condone violence against others.
-Violence is socially accepted in the mid-east.
-Islam alone has been hijacked by extremists and is being turned into a death cult (your term) while Christians and Jews are inherently peaceful.
-The American public does not have the stomach for war, if we loose in Iraq it will be their fault, not Bush?s.
-Oh yes, and Olie is an average height fellow.


Playing political Wack-a-Mole again I see.

Be a real man and defend these assertions, logically. If you feel they are taken out of context, then explain your comments better ?or the big bad homosexual will kick you around again.

 

[30gAy]

I am officially starting a support group of middle-aged women who love 30 gAy. Posting smilies and laffies and huggies and all that warm fuzzy stuff can be the trademark of our support for each other in these trying times.

C'mon girls!

While I appreciate the gesture, there is really no need.......unless of course your support involves cash donations.

You see, I enjoy this......(sick, I know)

 

[scooterbug44]

...I'll quickly ask what your thoughts are on Palestine's position on Israel?

Do Palestine and Israel just need more understanding? Give peace a chance?

My policy on genocide is that it's always wrong.

Quoting people advocating it does not place your similar comments in a more flattering light, but rather reinforces the opposing argument that calling a group of people animals is racist.